Mar 3, 2010

Hurling Random Insults to Hunters - And Don't it Feel Good!

Today a friend of mine had minor hand surgery and needed transportation home... While in the waiting room, this elderly guy, and his toothless wife sat next to me. The way he was wheezing, I wondered if he wasn't there for some kind of COPD or breathing disorder... Anyway, he was wearing a dingy t-shirt that had some kind of pro-hunting message on it - So it wasn't surprising when he whipped this out to read: Get this... as he's doing so - His wife actually pulls the coffee table closer to put her feet on it! Just like they were in their trailer! Gosh I wish she had worn something other than toe-less sandals...

So, finally they have their appointment and depart... The geriatric heavy breather leaves his magazine behind... Well, you know --- with some idle time and a magic marker I just had to have my say... Yeah, the pages were filled choice photos too... One article says "It's just like being a parent... You can't help but brag".

But I did learn a few thing though... I already knew about all the deer farms. The ones that operate like a factory. Genetically modified buck sperm. Artificially inseminating does; Removing fawns to nurse on supplements. The antibiotics, tagging... Well you know, it's just kinda like another "livestock" industry... Gotta keep making them in order to require the taking of them!

But there was some information about planting plots to attract these deer... One ad says "Deer season starts in the spring". These "farmers" soon to turn killers grow alfalfa and clover. They also plant chickory, soybeans, corn, and 40 different strains of legumes. WoW - And I'm thinking... Hey that's my food, and I even have a hard time finding that kind of variety!

Anyway... I thumb through towards the back pages --- And what-do-you-know... With all the macho, he-man -rubbish these guys espouse... Seems they have "teenie" problems: Looks like all the ads were directed to the most marketable audience: You know boys --- They say diet has a lot to do with libido... From an erection stand point, anything that's good for your heart is good for your penis," says Dr. Mulhall. Too much saturated fat can, over time, clog arteries and, in doing so, prevent an adequate flow of blood from reaching the genital region. This not only interferes with the ability to perform, but also with sexual pleasure. Maybe the venison isn't working for you?

Oh yeah... And my friend is fine. I left a stack of vegan brochures... And the magazine? Wonderful lining for the litter box! :)

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

YOU ARE NOT FUNNY,YOU JUST THINK YOU ARE, DEAD DEER DOWN THE ROAD, SEEMS THEY ARE SO THICK THEY ARE CAUSING ACCIDENTS, BUT THAT DON'T MATTER TO VEGANS, THEY WANT TO ANNIHILATE THE MEAT EATERS OF TEXAS JUST SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO TRY AND "EDUCATE" THEM OR MAYBE I SHOULD SAY BRAINWASH. DON'T GO VEGAN THEY ARE TERRORIST TO HUMANS.

Bea Elliott said...

Ah yes... The "terrorists" who save small cuddly animals and don't eat friendly beings. Sure.

You know - The accidents with deer increase during "hunting season"... There are many nonlethal "control" measures that communities could adopt... Yet these "food plots" are liberally planted which biologically encourages mating. Nature says "there's enough food" - procreate.

And finally, IF there indeed is an over abundance of the critters... Seems like the first thing to do, is to not make more in the 1500+ US deer "farms".

GO VEGAN! We REALLY are the good guys! ;)

Anonymous said...

you so so ignorant, the deer farms are not used for raising deer for anything other than the sport of it all, I seriously doubt they use the artificial insemination on wild animals like you are saying. The vegans do like furry little animals better than people because they aren't ever around animals to even know what an animal is capable of doing and what it is not. They are totally ignorant whe it comes to animals.

Bea Elliott said...

Look... Google (or use any search engine) "buck semen".

And I'm wondering - At some point, if it turns out that all I say IS true... Will you have the courage to admit it? No hard feelings; I fought the knowledge myself. It really is unbelievable what we do to nonhumans.

It's not a matter of liking people less than animals --- It's about justice. How "fair" is it to trap and confine, then bait an animal who was near domesitication in a breeding facility? What kind of "sport" is this when one party stands to loose ammo and time... And the other NON-CONSENTING party stands to loose thier life??? There is no "fairness" to any of it!

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Anonymous said...

Deer hunting is not a sport for a city slicker mamma's boy. Why do you even think you can change history or the future for that matter, must be you don't have a life.

Bea Elliott said...

Hello Anonymous... But you mistake me for a "city slicker" - I've lived on 7 acres with a national forest as my backyard... I've survived without electricity for almost a month - Have grown and eaten my own food. I've also put out corn and salt blocks for deer... One of them, was left with only 3 legs - obviously the result of a "hunting" accident...

So, you think hunting is a "sport" or a game? This would mean the participation of willing contestants... Who had equal stake in the outcome. Surely we can't say this about hunter's "prey". The hunter stands to loose time and money... The deer on the other hand stands to loose his/her life -Now how "fair" is that?

No, I can't change history... But ideology can certainly direct the future. And I intend to do my absolute best to direct it towards a more sane and compassionate course. And THIS dear brute - Is my life!

Now why don't you just mosey on and peddle your pseudo-macho bravado somewhere's else? Your 2cents counts for squat here.

good day.

Anonymous said...

DID ANYONE EVER TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANIMALS AND HUMANS, ANIMALS DON'T THINK, THEY WOULD NEVER CARE ABOUT YOU,SO YOU WANT US ALL TO EAT VEGETABLES TILL OUR HAIR FALLS OUT FROM LACK OF PROTEIN?

Bea Elliott said...

Anonymous - Did anyone ever tell you humans ARE animals? Yep! That's right! Flesh & blood; Nerves, tissue, organs and brains too! Our thought processes might not all be the same... But we ALL certainly know that we exist! And we ALL know pain when we feel it. And we ALL value our lives equally...

Now, someone in a coma or an infant don't "care" about me either... Should I harvest their organs because they don't??? No, didn't think so.

Hair falling out from a lack of protein??? Your kidding right? Flesh is certainly not the only, or the "best" source of protein: Beans, legumes, nuts, seeds, etc... I certainly am doing fine! But this is silly anyway, everyone knows hair loss is due to genetics -

Nice try though! good day! ;)

Anonymous said...

You are sooo silly, we aren't food animals though, now are we?? WHO CARES if we eat the animals, humans are what I worry about.

Bea Elliott said...

Yes... but we are "food animals" - to other animals who would eat us. And to the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer, the Donner Party and the Andes survivors. It actually is all a matter of circumstances now isn't it?

And I really wouldn't condemn anyone who had to eat flesh as a matter of necessity... But clearly we, in the "civilized" world don't "need" to!

And who cares? Why I do! And my husband does... And many, many of my friends do too! It's simply a matter of time before all evolved people realize that killing without cause is just unacceptable.

But I do agree with you about our own species:
“The wild, cruel animal is not behind the bars of a cage. He is in front of it.” -Axel Munthe

Anonymous said...

no, we are not food animals, I think god gave us a brain so we could survive under all conditions. Most people can not afford to eat nuts, they are to expensive. You don't know animals, therefore you love them.

Bea Elliott said...

Oh so "gOd" gave us a brain (and body) that would also allow us to eat a plant based diet... Got it.

As far a vegan diet being "expensive"... It's as costly or as "cheap" as you wish it to be... Per pound beans and legumes are very reasonable - They last forever with no refridgeration... I can also buy a seven pound tub of peanutbutter for about $6.00 --- Eating a plant based diet can actually be thrifty if you think about it! :)

"You don't know animals, therefore you love them." Well gosh, you're assume a lot don't you? What should I "know" about animals to make me feel that they deserve harm? Do they steal? lie? are they molesters or murderes? Are they a "threat" to national security or something??? Please do tell... What have they done that would warrant their mistreatment - Their slaughter - their unending "use" by man??? What should I "know" that would justify my wrath towards them?

See ya! ;)

Anonymous said...

No they don't steal 0r molest, you see they might if they could think like humans, but they are not. Nothing warrants their mistreatment but they do have a purpose just like you do, yours is to take care of your children and theirs is to supply the source of food that you use to take care of your children therefore warranting their slaughter.

Bea Elliott said...

But you and I disagree. I don't believe "my purpose" or any living being is pre-ordained...

You see, I believe every one who possess a life has their own "purpose" not delegated by any "mandate" to "serve" another.

I certainly don't think women were "made" for men to use. Or that a particular race was "made" for another... Or that any species was made for humans.

Tell you what --- Imagine an intergalactic craft landed on Earth. These particular beings have a need for human eyeballs... And they have the physical power to leave the whole planet blind. Would we not all scream at the unfairness of it all? Would we not plead with them - No! We see with these objects! They belong to us! You have no "right" to take them from us?

Of course you would! As we all would be outraged at the theft of parts of our bodies...

Now, if you could use that EMPATHY for others in the same situtation -Well by golly! You've got yourself a conscience! A real genuine code of ethics based on fairness and compassion! Congratulations! You're a consistent thinker - who values justice!

What? You don't think it's the same thing? Because nonhumans are "beneath" us? And their "purpose" is to be used? Then, you have absolutely no reason to quibble when injustice is done to you, by any other from this planet or not! The standards you use are the same: Those who are more powerful call the shots. There is no "logic" - Just might.

Sorry, that is not how I wish to live.

And as long as I can speak for those who are being "used" - I intend to do so... So I've created my own "purpose" and that is to be a voice for the innocent. Unpopular perhaps... But ain't free will grand!

Anonymous said...

Yup the powerful call the shots, thank goodness, I would not like eating vegetables all the time. I don't eat a lot of meat, just enough to ensure enough protein and those essential minerals we all need easily supplied by a piece of chicken or fish or beef.

Bea Elliott said...

Oh so the powerful call the shots and you like it that way... Make sure you remember that next time a gang of thugs are feelin' their oats!

Millions of us get the proper protein and "essential minerals" without the "piece" of a chicken, a fish or a cow. So your point is???

Anonymous said...

Chicken,fish and cow are all excellent sources of vitamins and minerals and a whole lot better tasting than your sympathy food.

Bea Elliott said...

My diet is not lacking anything in the way of nutrition or gastronomic delight!

But consider this... I did eat chickens, cows, pigs and fishes once. For over 45 years! So why wasn't anything soooo great to keep me "loyal" to these foods? 90%of vegans have been raised on "meat", dairy & eggs... Yet they happily "manage" to replace them; After many decades! So how come on that???

Think on it - and let me know! ;)

Anonymous said...

Because you are older and don't need as much nutrition as a growing child would need, also they can make theirselves believe more bad things to convince them it is bad to eat meat when actually it is not. A lot of people would starve if we didn't have meat.

Bea Elliott said...

Well... There are many, many individuals who have been vegan for 20, 30 and 40 years --- Gosh, how do they do it??? Since children no less!

Now, your idea about people starving without "meat" --- Sure, if you're in "survival" mode, that might be the case... If you're in the jungle or in the Arctic. But we're not talking about those situtations... We're talking about me - About you - And about anyone else who is sitting in their comfy chair surfing the web. We certainly would not "starve" without "meat".

Please, keep your arguments relevant. I love a good debate - But you pull out absurd scenarios that don't fit OUR conditions in reality...

Next time you're on an island I will be happy to agree with you that you might starve without "meat"... But then again, what is the animal you are going to eat living on???

see ya! :)

Anonymous said...

Do your research

Bea Elliott said...

duly noted

Anonymous said...

The Animal Agenda (a magazine whose March 2002 cover story equated animal husbandry with the Nazi Holocaust), and co-signed letters with a former president of Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty—an assembly of anti-medical-research thugs described by the FBI as a “domestic terrorist threat.” People are going to see right through your agenda and keep right on eating meat.

Bea Elliott said...

Anonymous - I have no "hidden agenda" - I'm totally up front with my convictions.
I do not believe that it is necessary or justifiable to enslave nonhumans for our whims. I do not believe it is morally defendable to use animals for "food", clothing, entertainment or any other frivolous want. I wish to help these innocent victims who are caught in a system of ignorance and greed. I have never made this a SECRET!

Still, no matter how much I seek their liberation - Can you cite anywhere that I have advocated violence, or unpeaceful disruption to accomplish this end? No! I've used only words and ideas! Yet oddly - You are threatened by such... What a fearful state you must reside in.

And on that note I suggest to you again - Find medical help! Your trolling has become an indication of severe emotional imbalance - Please, there is nothing more that you or I can possibly gain from further discussions.

Want your opinions heard??? GET YOUR OWN BLOG!

Good bye (please).

Anonymous said...

Maybe not violence but lies, yes someone has to protect the innocent PEOPLE from the animal rights idiots(for lack of a better worD. My concern is the line you are feeding the people and they need to do further study and not just believe what you say.

Bea Elliott said...

I have never "lied" - I have never offered "facts" without supporting links with evidence.

Like I said... Get your own space to push your own agenda.

I promise not to troll!

Anonymous said...

YES YOU HAVE ALL THOSE EARTHLING VIDEOS AND OTHERS thAT YOU GUYS PROMOTE WITH ALL THE BLOOD AND GUTS, THAT IS JUST STUPID. Why do those stupid vegans have to hire those people to do and say those things about how they mistreated animals when they slaughter them is not exactly the normal ways things are done, they just pick the worst case and plaster it all over the internet to turn people off from meat. An animal is just an animal just like it always has been since the beginning of time and most are slaughtered in a way that doesn't prolong their death, not the way you vegans make it sound. YOU NEED MEDICAL HELP, YOU CANNOT SAVE ALL THE ANIMALS.

Bea Elliott said...

To all who read: Please note - This "Anonymous" person has been hounding my email to the point of having to block them. I've answered dozens and dozens of inane rantings. I have pleaded with them to stop trolling this blog... I like to leave comments up so everyone has an opportunity to express their own opinions... Well, this person has had more than a fair shake on my bandwidth.

Anyone who has followed what I write I state yet once again I care not that animals were "used" and enslaved "since the beginning of time". I believe in evolving beyond the caves from which we crawled out of.

I care not if the animals were needlessly slaughtered by candlelight and sweet music... Accompanied by full body massages and fed hand peeled grapes! It's wrong! I don't support any slaughter of any being under any conditions.

And in summary - This person obviously needs medical help --- He/She actually thinks they stand a snowball's chance in hell to change my mind! Not gonna happen!

Anonymous said...

No Bea, don't care about your mind, just don't want innocent young people to read your blog and not at least look beyond the vegan sites.

Bea Elliott said...

The assumption that animals are without rights and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality. ~Schopenhauer

Anonymous said...

Schopenhauer was certainly a lifelong pessimist: “[Our] existence is certainly to be regarded as an error or mistake, to return from which is salvation” (Schopenhauer [1819], volume II, p. 605]. Schopenhauer believed that it would have been better if the earth were "as lifeless as the moon". He was "a lonely, violent and unbefriended man, who shared his bachelor's existence with a poodle. ... [He was of the view that the world was simply an idea in his head] a mere phantasmagoria of my brain, that therefore in itself is nothing." (Chambers)
enough said about him!!!

Bea Elliott said...

Ah... But it is you and your ilk that says nothing can change for the better - The most pessimistic view one can have is that the world will always be swallowed in violence and exploitation. As one who advocates for justice for All I see otherwise. But first we must recognize truths in order to change them for the better:

The thinking [person] must oppose all cruel customs no matter how deeply rooted in tradition and surrounded by a halo. When we have a choice, we must avoid bringing torment and injury into the life of another.
— Albert Schweitzer