tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post6395806709211649435..comments2023-10-16T11:11:47.277-04:00Comments on PROVOKED: One Track Animal Rights Advocacy - BUS - ted!Bea Elliotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13981537551810309024noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-29453440609436982652009-09-05T01:09:24.491-04:002009-09-05T01:09:24.491-04:00Hi Ana... I actually like what you had to say abou...Hi Ana... I actually like what you had to say about tactics and strategies as well. Trying to remain objective - And not throw out the baby with the bath water... Alienating anyone leaning to "my side" is the last thing I want to do! :)Bea Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981537551810309024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-86827536489553906532009-09-05T00:51:20.413-04:002009-09-05T00:51:20.413-04:00Hi Roger - The comment by harleydecal gives me ho...Hi Roger - The comment by harleydecal gives me hope. Yes, change will be possible through electing better representation... And we should inform everybody, vegan or not, that tax dollars are funding the dirtiest deals. And the dollars we think we're "voting" with are going to support the very institutions that contradict our values. <br /><br />The way we spend our money should align with our beliefs accordingly. I feel very strongly that this is a liberty, cunningly being denied. "Demand" shouldn't be manipulated by by favors or "cheating". <br /><br />I know that this requires putting honest people in office. <br /><br />But thus far, we haven't. These corruptions have been going on for decades. The Farm Bill, lax labor enforcement, lowered (or nonexistence) EPA standards, land grants, etc. all allow animal industries to operate outside the reality of "market demand" --- These are not "recent developments" by any means. <br /><br />What I'm looking for is transparency - I think people would make better choices, if they had more truth. And exposing a deceitful political system is just as important as disclosing the greedy animal industries. Challenging the political/economic structure is just another layer of (my) advocacy. Demand of products alone won't make a difference. We must "demand" responsible government as well. <br /><br />I think we both see what the problems are... Government merely reflects what the culture accepts. Yes, addressing these false perceptions and electing honest leaders is the way to a repair...<br /><br />Thanks for the exchange. BTW - I enjoyed the podcast & am anxious to hear the next. :)<br />BeaBea Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981537551810309024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-86415589902429479152009-09-04T13:04:26.060-04:002009-09-04T13:04:26.060-04:00Bea,
I don't understand your contribution to ...Bea,<br /><br />I don't understand your contribution to Go Vegan Or Die. The economic case you make does not, I think, do what you think it does. For example, in one of your links, http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/6584410.html - read the second comment from harleydecal. Of course governments will prop up ~massive~ industries (note the smaller ones go to the wall first) whenever they can but they can only do that if they get no ~substantial~ negative response from doing so. If the numbers of ethical vegans rise, each of which has a vote, politicians will begin to pay a price for supporting these industries.<br /><br />Secondly, you are citing sources that speak of very recent developments. If the trend was year on year for many years, as it would be given a rise in ethical veganism, these industries would be forced to respond to the market and could no longer rely on being bailed out by taxpayers.<br /><br />best wishes,<br />Roger.Roger Yateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15129714223305750782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-40284897397283810792009-08-27T22:51:00.258-04:002009-08-27T22:51:00.258-04:00Great post! You should get it published someday. ...Great post! You should get it published someday. Save it!Anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04409189700970914279noreply@blogger.com