tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post4051960743220249645..comments2023-10-16T11:11:47.277-04:00Comments on PROVOKED: Finally! Meat (eating) Has Met It's Match!Bea Elliotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13981537551810309024noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-7848556764285681832012-04-01T09:37:10.827-04:002012-04-01T09:37:10.827-04:00Hi HGV! How about an even better title "Tell ...Hi HGV! How about an even better title "Tell us why it's ethical to murder innocent victims without necessity". I've used that word "necessity" a million, billion times as it is the hinge pin - Without it I don't think a single "rationalization" will stand up. But I bet dozens will try!<br /><br />I love unfuck the world too - Now if only we could...<br /><br />Thanks for the visit & all you do!Bea Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981537551810309024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-71562449471947964182012-04-01T09:23:57.144-04:002012-04-01T09:23:57.144-04:00Hi CQ -
I'm guessing the NYT may have ignore...Hi CQ - <br /><br />I'm guessing the NYT may have ignored the proper language in "Calling all Carnists" because it may have indicated an unintended (but genuine) bias... (?) It's true that Joy's parameters around the concept would have been much more accurate. <br /><br />You're right about the use of the word meat... I suppose to an extent the use of it here was for alliteration only.<br /><br />I love Colleen Patrick Goudreau's take on it too! No such thing as "fake meat" either as "meat" means food! More accurately - We should be calling it "animal meat" like we call dairy "cow's milk". I may give that term "animal meat" a spin when talking to omnivores... We'll see how it goes!<br /><br />Thanks for comments and clarification! ;)Bea Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981537551810309024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-35991058896185895312012-04-01T09:08:44.536-04:002012-04-01T09:08:44.536-04:00Thanks D.E.M. - Gives me a chance to catch up to s...Thanks D.E.M. - Gives me a chance to catch up to some of your postings... The story about the 20,000 chickens who burned alive was horrible! Once again: so much for "humane" eggs. :(<br /><br />Agree about Pollen - Disqualified to give any rational opinion as he's knee-deep in "rationalizations". <br /><br />Appreciate your input.Bea Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981537551810309024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-76183778228441442512012-03-31T19:56:27.100-04:002012-03-31T19:56:27.100-04:00I too am looking forward to the results of this wi...I too am looking forward to the results of this winnerless contest. Let's see what they can come up with!<br /><br />And I agree with CQ that the term "meat" is unfortunate -- I would rather that the title had been "Tell us why it's ethical to consume other animals."<br /><br />Plus, I love that last image. Unfuck the world indeed, snort.Have Gone Veganhttp://www.havegonevegan.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-91828034418325468142012-03-28T01:39:25.582-04:002012-03-28T01:39:25.582-04:00One more thing I just noticed: The NYT headline re...One more thing I just noticed: The NYT headline reads: "Calling All Carnivores"<br /><br />Why does the NYT not know that Melanie Joy coined a word that describes the ideology of a flesh-eater. <br /><br />"Calling All Carnists" is the right way to say it, considering that lions and tigers and crocodiles aren't being asked for an essay.CQhttp://www.creaturequotes.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-55164036876027391432012-03-28T01:26:48.825-04:002012-03-28T01:26:48.825-04:00Thanks for steering us to all the links on this su...Thanks for steering us to all the links on this subject, Bea.<br /><br />My "quibble" is that the word "meat" is used. As Colleen has pointed out, we need to take back the real meaning of that word: it describes the solid part of any food, as distinct from the liquid, or milk, part of the food. <br /><br />So there is, for example, almond meat and almond milk, rice meat and rice milk, coconut meat and coconut milk, and so on. <br /><br />A non-euphemistic, accurately worded title would read: "Tell us why it's ethical to eat animals." <br /><br />I wonder which will come first: the public's use of the correct word or the public's forsaking of eating animals. <br /><br />Or maybe they can only happen in concert. After all, it's so much easier to keep living the lie when the sterile "meat" word covers up the fact that a living being has been enslaved, exploited, murdered for your pleasure and/or profit.CQhttp://www.creaturequotes.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-51337928355557930592012-03-27T11:10:12.815-04:002012-03-27T11:10:12.815-04:00Posted this to my blog! Thanks.
Pollen has such a...Posted this to my blog! Thanks.<br /><br />Pollen has such a stupid take on veganism in the omnivore's dilemma.... He should be disqualified.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-44427532669048580862012-03-27T09:58:42.253-04:002012-03-27T09:58:42.253-04:00Hi veganelder - I already admit I'm probably a...Hi veganelder - I already admit I'm probably a speciesist... I much prefer the company of other animals rather than my own. Didn't want to also risk being labeled a sexist too! But you're right - The male gender has made a miserable mess of things. <br /><br />And Carol Adams did have some remarkable suggestions - but still left out a dozen more female perspectives I can think of! A bold plug for the most compassionate and rational person I'd choose would be Colleen Patrick Goudreau.<br /><br />But I have to remind myself... I know of a lot of decent vegan guys. Really good men. And a lot of cruel, thoughtless women... And then there's just the pragmatically ignorant - Polly-face Pollan sure fits the "yuck" category.<br /><br />In all it will be interesting. I'm glad the conversation is opening up on the defensive end. But unless there's something we better minds have drastically overlooked - It's no contest.<br /><br />We'll stay tuned as it unfolds... Thanks for the visit! ;)Bea Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981537551810309024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6804054451517691779.post-54663969788699692262012-03-27T07:19:23.405-04:002012-03-27T07:19:23.405-04:00The playing out of this will be interesting to wat...The playing out of this will be interesting to watch. I have a strong predilection, however, to believe Carol Adams made the most cogent and telling observation about the makeup of the panel.<br /><br />Given that that so many ills of the planet and so many hierarchies of oppression and so many awful things in general were and are driven by groups of white men...I'm really not impressed at all with the group...<br /><br />But...we'll see. (Michael Pollan...yuck)veganelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05188156008589356984noreply@blogger.com