About 2 years ago a friend and neighbor became extremely ill... First, it started with what doctors thought were allergies... But then they turned into flu-like symptoms - Some days Doug couldn't get out of bed! He also developed digestive problems... But we attributed that to the lack of fiber when he went on the "Atkins Diet".
Yeah, that's right, his new diet and illnesses coincided. His runny nose, constant cough, difficulty breathing, chest tightness, muscle aches and face swelling all happened once his main meals consisted mostly of meat. Specifically "hamburger" and "cow meat".
Anyway - For nearly 2 years the doctors are stumped to find drugs to help rid Doug of his ailments... In fact, his symptom have only escalated.
But now I see this report: FSIS RESIDUE VIOLATION INFORMATION For Week Of Jan 14, 2010. This 110-page list includes almost 900 names of dairy businesses that have been cited for infractions. And the Cattlenetwork says "Not only does this list present a negative image for the cattle industry, it is a target for increased scrutiny from industry critics. We must eliminate antibiotic residues in food animals and make this list go away. This is an issue that must be taken seriously. The reputation of individual producers and the entire livestock industry is on the line."
I'm no chemist be here are some of these antibiotics and drugs found in these poor murdered calves and cows:
AMPICILLIN, FLUNIXIN, GENTAMICIN, TULATHROMYCIN, NEOMYCIN, PENICILLIN, OXYTETRACYCLINE, TILMICOSIN, DESFUROYLCEFTIOFUR, TETRACYCLINE, SULFAMETHAZINE...
I mean... How SICK are these "healthy" animals anyways?
"Industry critic" - (that would be me)... Will be sending a copy of this report to Doug. He might get some answers as to why none of the pharmaceuticals he's been prescribed are working... Sure, I know the industry will say that everything is "safe" because these "products" never reached the market... Hum - Just like the "recalled meat" that was fed to school kids.
I certainly can see why Doug's "two all beef patty" diet may have really compromised his health and immune system! Maybe this information is just what he needs to GO VEGAN!
47 comments:
Maybe Dougs problem is all the soy found in our food, it is hydrolyized vegetable protein and being full of estrogen, I am sure people are gettting way to much of it, hence all the gay people and early maturing little girls.The antiobiotic never reach the food supply as for the e-coli, cook your meat and it isn't a problem.
The thing is he also ate lots of soy (dairy allergy) before the Atkins diet - With no problems. So he can rule that out.
The antibiotics "never" reach the food supply... So we can have your word on this! Great news! I'll tell Doug "Anonymous" said exactly what I said they would... See? I'm way ahead of you!
Oh yeah... And he already knows to cook the poop to a high enough temperature to make it "safe" to eat.
You have yourself a good day now! :)
oh yeah cook your poop, try another ridiculous statement. Maybe the soy finally caught up with him, can't blame dairy since he didn't eat any.
Yeah, yeah... "maybe", "maybe" --- But maybe not too? So what? It certainly is reasonable to believe this man has consumed far too many antibiotics in his "food". You certainly aren't his physician and I think it's worth a shot to mention it --- He's just on the cusp of a plant-based diet... So hey! I think the timing is great! :)
Uhhh... "ridiculous"? You do know that ecoli is bacteria found in manure right??? Hence - "poop" - Get it?
yeah but the manure isn't in the meat, duh, oh you read that at vegan university didn't you. It is funny how all you vegans been educated to say the same exact thing as the next vegan, go eat some more beans and blow it out your you know what.YOU certainly aren't his physician either and all the estrogen can do lots of harm just from eating soybean also can harm thyroid. Oh and another thing, manure is just vegetables that have been digested, maybe you should try some.
The bacteria is the same... I wouldn't advise anyone to dunk their apples in a toilet before eating them...
Right, right... you've already established your gripe with "soy" can you please move on???
Amiable post and this mail helped me alot in my college assignement. Gratefulness you for your information.
Glad I could help! You might also be interested in this site:
http://www.farad.org/
Food Animal Residue Avoidance & Depletion Program
It's got a search system for all the drugs used. Funny thing, seems like "farmed animals" actually have better "health care" than humans - Strange world huh?
Thanks for dropping by & good luck! ;)
I wouldn't take to much stock in her information if I was you anonymous, the vegans make up a lot of really important information that isn't exactly true, especially this blogger. You might want to do a lot of research so you don't fail your assignment.
Hello - By all means I encourage everyone to do their own research! That's how I got here! Question everything! That's how millions of others are finding out the truth.
Everyone should use their own judgement and good common sense as to what rings true or not.
And I would love for you to specifically point out what information "isn't exactly true". Please, I'm always willing to expand my knowledge. I welcome anything you can contribute to further clear, rational thinking.
We can all be emotional... But at a point, it has to be backed up with some kind of logic to validate it.
You know where to find me...
I know for a fact that there are no antibiotics in milk, every load is tested,EVERY LOAD, i don't know whether you just read the vegan sites or what but you are wrong about antibiotics in the food, the US food supply is the safest in the world. What about the imported fruit that comes from countries that still use pesticides that are banned in the US? yumm yumm, I won't buy imported fruit. What about the plastic bottles that our food is packaged in and the bi-phenols that cause cancer? Why don't you advocate for people instead of animals which are one of the biggest food source there are. The animals enjoy what life they do have and it is better than none, it is better to have lived than to never been born at all. You vegans are just a bunch of gooofy people that have your priorities all mixed up.
Look - This post indicates the antibiotic residue in dairy cow "MEAT" --- However, if you really want to press the issue of anitbiotics in cow milk:
"The occurrence and detection of antibiotic residues in milk continue to be concerns for the dairy industry."
NC State University College of Agricultural & Life Sciences:
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/foodsci/ext/pubs/antibioticresidues.html
"Milk may help prevent potentially dangerous bacteria like Staphylococcus from being killed by antibiotics."
Scientificblogging:
http://tinyurl.com/yjcsw9e
"Recent studies have shown that the incidence antibiotic-resistant bacteria in dairy products represents a risk for consumers."
Ohio State University Extension:
http://www.ag.ohio-state.edu/~news/story.php?id=5129
If you'll note these are NOT "vegan sites". In fact, two are agricultural sites...
Finally - Anonymous, you say with such bravado "the US food supply is the safest in the world". You must have missed this recent report cited on Food Safety News:
America now ranks among the bottom-five countries in terms of food safety, joined by China, Turkey, Iran, and Spain.
http://tinyurl.com/ygefvdp
"The animals enjoy what life they do have and it is better than none, it is better to have lived than to never been born at all."
You obviously use this mantra (I've heard it many times before) to justify killing innocent beings... It doesn't work for me.
I don't believe we have the ethical right to breed animals just to eat them. IT'S NOT NECESSARY. No matter how "happy" a life they have! No matter how "nice" a slaughter they get...
We don't NEED to do it ---
It's ethically UNJUSTIFIABLE. Millions thrive on a plant based diet. It is not "goofy" to believe this way - It is morally consistent.
To cause harm when I don't have to is not how I choose to live.
Thanks for your input, but I disagree with nearly everything you have said.
Good day.
yeah those are vegan sites and the milk that is detected is always dumped because it is detected!!! The farmer is required to pay for the whole load of milk that is contaminated.Sometimes a farmer accidently includes the milk in the tank, but it is always detected and yes it is always a concern so it is always checked for.---http://tinyurl.com/ygefvdp-is a vegan site (kinda obvious) http://www.ag.ohio-state.edu/~news/story.php?id=5129 from this site--
pasteurization and other precautions has led to a very low rate (less than 1 percent) of food-borne illness outbreaks in the United States to be associated with dairy products---all finding were reported to USDA, yes resistant bacteria are a problem especially in hospitals where they have become common, like the MERSA BUG. Drs aren't prescribing antiobiotics so carelessly now days, like they used to give them out for viruses or just as a preventive and now they don't because that has let to resistant bacteria. You only report what you think will turn people off to meat, that is not right!
You know... If I were that narrow minded to only "report" what I thought would turn people off to meat --- I would have censored all your many, many comments. But I don't. I figure people can make their own judgements based on facts they can research themselves.
So now you have us believing that we should blame doctors... Seems at every turn you attempt to avoid any responsibility. That doesn't bode well for open discourse.
But to (hopefully) conclude this long conversation about "meat and dairy"... I will close by quoting Ovid - "...Earth is generous, With her provision, and her sustenance,
is very kind. She offers, for your table, food that requires no
bloodshed and no slaughter."
Good day.
Oh! But by the way... Those are NOT "vegan sites"... Since when are university agriculture sites "vegan"? Perhaps soon - maybe... But for now, clearly these are geared to "animal agriculture".
Either you are not looking at them or you just wish to outright "deceive"! I really don't have the patience for either. Thank you.
Well yeah, my son had ear infections when he was little and they did prescribe antibiotics for any little thing, now the antibiotic that worked on my son doesn't work any more.
and the ohio site said no such thing, don't you feel a need to paint or sing or do something useful with your time, everyone knows you are a vegan and they only report what they think will help turn people off to food. Also the resistant staph bacteria are the most common in hospitals
Want evidence? Visit
www.PhysicianScam.com• www.ActivistCash.com • www.AnimalScam.com
Ohio Extension Dairy Processing Safety and Bacteria Incidence: I cited from the second sentence in the last bullet entry --- It's clear as day: "Recent studies have shown that the incidence antibiotic-resistant bacteria in dairy products represents a risk for consumers."
Please read before contradicting what's written in the article!
Yes! Of course EVERYONE KNOWS I'M VEGAN! Have I for one second lead anyone to think otherwise??? It's NO SECRET!
And what does the frequency of staph in hospitals have to do with antibiotic resistance??? There is no tie-in... No integration to the discussion. We're not talking about where germs come from - We're talking about what's making the fighting against them so difficult! Follow???
But please... Those websites you listed - They aren't credible at all! They are shills - Just like CCF. Everyone know's they are a sham against truth.
Now bye-bye yet once more.
staph in hospital, antibiotics used in hospitals, yeah a less than 1% risk from dairy products, I would say that is about as low as your are going to get with any food. Those wbsites are more credible than yours are, get it??
Food Inc. has so many half-truths, myths and misconceptions about modern food production it definitely could fit into the realm of "a conduit for propaganda or personal expression."
The problem is that the majority of people are 2 or more generations removed from the farm. So, when watching this highly dramatic and sensationalized film that is very professionally produced, most people think that they are indeed learning the truth about the American food supply.
Yet again... I did not say antibiotics in "dairy" - The article points to antibiotics in "DAIRY COW FLESH"...
I think the "problem" agriculture has these days is that people wound up knowing too much about their "food" - No longer kept in the dark, they can research previously unknown information and decide for themselves.
This I know for FACT:
Eggs: Day old male chicks are either ground up live or suffocated, because they are of no "use" to the industry.
Beaks are mutilated/altered/seared/trimmed -or whatever term you wish to call it... Birds beaks are highly sensitve and in nature they would use these as "hands".
Hens are crowded into tiny cages in windowless sheds. They are unable to stretch, spread their wings, dustbathe - Or do anything "natural" to their habits.
When hens are no longer "productive", usually at a fraction of their life expectancy they are sent to slaughter.
DAIRY:
"Cow's milk" also comes with much suffering and needless bloodshed.
Calves are removed shortly after birth - "Bobby's" with their umbelical cords still attached go to slaughter within days... The other bull calves become "veal"
at only a few months old.
Meanwhile, humans are priviledged to steal the milk from the mother cows... Which she makes 13 times as much as any calf would consume...
She is repeatedly artificially inseminating so she can continue to birth and "give" milk. When she is no longer productive, at a fraction of her age, she is sent to slaughter too...
PIGS:
Pigs are also artificially inseminated. Kept in tiny crates by the thousands in warehouses... They exist this way for about 6 months while being "fattened" for the kill...
CATTLE:
After a few short months of "grazing" - Usually on public land... Most go to "feedlots" where they are further "finished" on grain and corn...
All these animals are given drugs of some sort to keep them alive and "healthy" enough to meet the butcher's knife.
Now - There's not anything here that is not FACT. 99% of all the animals people eat come from these enviroments. ALL "food" animals have an early, cruel, and UNNECESSARY death.
And finally, for a bit more of TRUTH: We do not NEED to do any of this... We can thrive on a plant based diet - It is better for human health, better for the environment... And certainly better for nonhumans.
If this threatens economic gain - OR "tradition" - Sorry, but there are no lies told here: Want to make a better world? Eat like you mean it. GO VEGAN
We cannot all live on a plant based diet, and most of what you say is not true, but you have watched the vegan videos and apparently paid good attention so you can repeat all the nonsense you saw in the videos, put on by none other than the animal rights people, shame on them.
Two things: "We cannot all live on a plant based diet" - I suspect there might be a very small percentage of people... 2 or 3% who for some reason of physical abnormality, might be unhealthy without a few ounces of flesh per day. I am not a dietician, so I will concede that this might be possible.
BUT - Surely we're not talking about the majority of people. And we're certainly not talking about YOU! Now, are YOU living on a plant based diet? Even though we assume you CAN???
And PLEASE - What of the above mentioned truths is: mostly "not true"? Just point: eggs, dairy, etc.
And it matters little where FACTS are gathered from... TRUTH is TRUTH no matter who delivers the word.
For shame on the animal industries for hiding all this from consumers for all these years! I have a good mind to sue them for tricking me into a breach of my ethics!
Well, for one thing my mother is 80 years old,never been to a dr. except for child birth and has and still does eat meat and a variety of other food. So if meat is such a rotten poison, where is your proof?
So? I could have an aunt who is vegetarian and in her 90's! Or... I could say that 99.9% of the hospitals are filled with people who consume "meat"... None of that validates anything in THIS discussion.
I ASK AGAIN... What of the list of "FACTS" about what "food" animals endure is a lie?
You said "most of what you say is not true" --- PLEASE answer the question so I may enlighten myself and others: WHAT IS NOT TRUE???
If you fail to answer I will consider an apology in order... That would be the honorable thing to do. Thanks.
1.the family pet bird lives in a cage in just the same way as chickens, doesn't hurt them any. 2. Cows provide a nutritious source of food by way of formula for our babies. They cannot be impregnated unless nature is willing, not just because we want them to.3 not all animals live on public land or get antibiotics, free range cattle do not nor does organic meat.
Anonymous - I asked for FACTS...
1. You "assuming" the family "pet bird" is okay with being in a cage is NOT a "fact"... And even if it were - This scenario is totally different than placing 6, 7 or 8 chickens in the same space as a parakeet might have.
2. "Our" babies should be drinking "our" milk. And that "cow's milk" might be of value to humans still does NOT say anything about what the mother cow or calf endure when they are seperated. You're view, which makes "our" benefit more valid than nature's mandate is "speciesist". It is not "FACT" of "farming" procedures!
I have a neighbor who was raped a few years ago... She was NOT willing - She became pregnant. Are you saying that cows "enjoy" having a human arm inserted in their rectum??? Or do they have to be tied, restrained, manipulated (by drugs or force) or "coaxed" to "accept" it?
3. I never said "all cattle graze on public land" I said they "usually" do.
Nice try - but still no "FACTS" of "lies"... Now again I ask: What of the list of "FACTS" about what "food" animals endure is a lie?
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Your "happy" confined caged bird theory?
The caged bird sings
with a fearful trill
of things unknown
but longed for still
and his tune is heard
on the distant hill
for the caged bird
sings of freedom.
Maya Angelou
Only FDA approved medicated feed additives will be used in rations.
Medicated feed additives will be used in accordance with the FDA Good Manufacturing
Practices (GMP) regulation.
Follow 'Judicious Antibiotic Use Guidelines'.
Extra-label use of feed additives is illegal and strictly prohibited.
To avoid violative residues: withdrawal times must be strictly adhered to.
Where applicable, complete records must be kept when formulating or feeding medicated feed rations.
Records are to be kept a minimum of two years.
_(Operator will assure that all additives are withdrawn at the proper time to avoid violative residues.) there are no antibiotic residues in beef and yes they are checked, hence that is where you get your list of violaters.
Some mothers can't produce milk so then what, they drink formula and, maybe not by choice but by necessity. With all the hvp in most of the processed food, these girls are getting way to much soy estrogen.Oh yes and now we have soy milk, more estrogen for our children.
apparently you have never been in heat, cows will stand quietly to be artificially inseminated and no it doesn't hurt them at all.
Yes... I'm sure there are all sorts of guidelines, rules, regulations, forms, data collection "safe guards" in position to "catch" every little incidence of infractions... Sort of reminds me of the "Hallmark recall" --- What was that 143 million pounds of "beef" dating back to 2006? And finally "recalled" for violations two years afterward... "Hallmark/Westland sold at least 37 million pounds of meat to the national school lunch program and other nutrition programs run by the USDA during that time".
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/feb/18/food/chi-beef_hedgesfeb18
Now, are these the same systems you say are in place now? Only now they "work"... Got it...
"Some mothers can't produce milk"... Well - In such a case I do know that almond milk, rice milk, hemp milk and oat milk all make wonderful alternatives to "cow's milk"...
Even so - What do we say to the adult man or woman who is still suckling at the teat of a female cow... So to speak --- (?)
"apparently you have never been in heat" - Well, let's not get too personal here. But by your logic we could say that it would be perfectly okay to "arouse" a mentally disturbed woman for our ends. After all, she "is" willing to the extent of her capacity... and we wouldn't "hurt" her. So that's okay then - right?
Now, Anonymous you are still way off topic (again) --- I ask for the THIRD TIME: "What of the list of "FACTS" about what "food" animals endure is a lie?"
Either everything IS TRUE - And verifiable from any animal agricultural site... (OR - You MUST address where the errors are -verifiable with equal "proof".
RECALLED MEAT AND NO ILLNESSES REPORTED, SOMETIMES IF A COW HAS A SORE FOOT THEY WILL LIE DOWN AND NOT GET UP BUT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HER STEAKS. tHERE IS VERY LITTLE NUTRITION IN ALMOND MILK, MOSTLY SUGAR-NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO FEED MY KIDS. i DRINK MILK EVERYDAY GIVES ME LOTS OF ENERGY, BUT IT COMES OUT OF A PLASTIC JUG NOT A TEAT,HA HA HA NO NO NO THEY DON'T AROUSE THE COW SHE IS IN HEAT WITHOUT ANY NEED FOR AROUSAL, THERE YOU GO AGAIN COMPARING ANIMALS TO HUMANS AND THERE REALLY IS NO COMPARISION. BUT YES TO GET HER PREGNANT THEY HAVE TO BE BREED, THEY MILK THEN THEY REST FOR 2 MONTHS THEN THEY HAVE A BABY AND MILK AGAIN, IT IS ALL GOOD. nOTHING WRONG WITH IT AT ALL.
Ah... But Bovine spongiform encephalopathy can take up to 20 years to develop... We have a very long time before we can truly say that no harm was done. Yes?
Sure... Almond milk may not be the best choice - But there are many other alternatives... Oddly enough - The more I read about soy milk allergies the more I find that those kids are just as likely to be allergic to cow's milk too - Who knew?
And you may get your cow's milk from a plastic jug... But it doesn't hide the truth that the contents were stolen from an infant calf... And that the calf, if a boy lived a miserable short life and dies a miserable death. I choose not to have that blood on my hands - thank you very much.
You say "IT IS ALL GOOD. nOTHING WRONG WITH IT AT ALL." But I disagree... And we've gone round and round about this since forever.
And still... You very carefully dodge the question presented to you: "What of the list of "FACTS" about what "food" animals endure is a lie?"
Thus far, all you've done is confirm the information... Regardless of whether YOU think it's okay or not - We must assume that YOU were LYING when you said I was...
Apology accepted. ;) I won't hold it against you if you take this opportunity to gracefully bow out of any further communication ON MY BLOG!
See ya!
nope no apology to you and your disinformation
Now that's a pity... You can deliberately hurt animals by your choice in what food you eat. Yet, your "pride" can't stand to say "sorry" when you're wrong.
So we'll do this a different way - I will call YOU a liar. And I WILL apologize IF you can show: "What of the list of "FACTS" about what "food" animals endure is a lie?".
And for clarity we will take this piece by piece...
Eggs: Day old male chicks are either ground up live or suffocated, because they are of no "use" to the industry.
Is this a lie? Yes or No only. We do not need your version of an explanation - Just FACTS.
True or not?
ok i have never ground up a live chick so whether someone else has, I would think not, it is just vegan choreography, you know the more blood and guts the better to turn people off and it obviously worked on you.
Now - Think... of what good are male chicks in an egg factory? You know biology. They do not lay eggs - Nor is their flesh profitable to "grow"... So the "solution" egg growers have is to "dispose" of the male chicks: This is footage taken inside a hatchery where "sexers" routinely seperate and kill as "standard practice":
http://www.mercyforanimals.org/hatchery/
And I'm not saying that you have "ground up or suffocated chicks" personally - But indeed you have "paid someone to do it for you by purchasing eggs". You "vote" on things with your money... Yes?
Remember... We are only trying to establish "FACT" REGARDING "FOOD" ANIMALS.
Let's go to the next topic: Beaks are mutilated/altered/seared/trimmed -or whatever term you wish to call it... Birds beaks are highly sensitve and in nature they would use these as "hands".
What is a "lie" here?
WHEN WE DRESS A CHICKEN WE USED AN AXE AND CHPPOED THE WHOLE HEAD OFF, THEN WE ATE IT FOR SUNDAY DINNER. THE DEATH WAS IMMEDIATE SO IF THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT I DON'T SEE WHY THEY WOULD BOTHER WITH JUST THE BEAK, WHY NOT JUST REMOVE THE WHOLE HEAD? I THINK YOU VEGANS NEED TO TOUGHEN UP, YOU ARE MOSTLY WOMEN AND A LOT OF THE VEGAN MEN ARE GAY, dON'T YOU AGREE?
Oh forgive me Anonymous - I never realized how ignorant you were on the subject... Being that you said I "lied" about what "food" animals endure" I thought you were were serious! And so it is YOU who knows little to nothing on the subject.
Here's the scoop on "egg hens" - As the video shows - at the hatchery they seperate males from females - They kill the males and take the female baby chick's beaks off... So they don't cannibalize each other when they cram them into tiny cages together...
LOL! How could they make eggs without their heads? LOL! You're too funny - Ha, Ha, Ha!
Oh - And about vegan gays? I actually know more meat-eating gays... Some are pretty good friends... Even though they still eat chickens - But I'm trying to inform them of the things that they don't know... Just like you don't know--- LOL - Hey! You could all get together and be friends too! LOL! Ha, Ha, Ha --- You really are a riot, even though you are a biggot! Ha, Ha, Ha! LOL! You really are funny! Even though you're as dumb as a box of rocks! LMAO! Ha, Ha, Ha! I just love your stupid, narrow minded, petty and speciesist references! LOL - Please... please - Don't ever, ever leave me to face this world without your rhetorical nonsense! LOL, LOL, LOL! What would my day be like without your low jabs of crude insensitivity? LOL - Ha, Ha, Ha! LOL, LOL, LOL! :)
WELL ARENT WE FUNNY, I SUPPOSE YOU WOULD RATHER THESE CHICKENS CANNIBALIZE THEIRSELVES, GOD YOU ARE A DUMB VEGAN. I AM NOT A BIGOT, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST GAYS BUT THEY ARE THE MORE FEMININE ONES THAT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO STAND THE REALITIES OF LIFE, YET THE VEGANS MAIN AGENDA IS BLOOD AND GUTS ONLY ON FILM, NOT IN REALITY. GOD I AM GLAD EVEYONE ISN'T AS PHYSCHO AS YOU ARE ABOUT CHICKENS, OF ALL THINGS. LOL LOL LOL ONLY IT REALLY ISN'T FUNNY TO THINK YOU WOULD RATHER THE CHICKEN EAT THEIRSELVES THAN HAVE THERE BEAKS FIXED OR WHATEVER YOU SAY.HOW THE HELL DO THEY EAT IF THEY DON'T HAVE A BEAK, OPPS MAYBE YOU LIED.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPYev37wWak
No... I would rather they not put birds in cages to begin with... See, what you (and they) are doing is placing a dog in a building - Setting the building on fire... Then fretting on ways to "save him". DON'T PUT THE ANIMALS IN HARM'S WAY TO BEGIN WITH. That's the easiest solution...
Sweetie... We MAKE the "realities of life"... It need not include war, murder, genocide, or animal holocaust. This is all OUR CHOICE. A cow was not born to hang from a meat hook while she bleeds out. This is not "natural" - It is a man made atrocity!
How do chickens eat if their beaks are mutilated? Many don't. But then again, they are worth pennies to the industry so if a few hundred die here and there... No big deal.
Got something for you:
The majority of birds worldwide are trimmed either with a hot blade (partial removal of the upper and lower beak using an electrically heated blade) or by using the infrared method which directs a strong source of heat into the inner tissue of the beak. After a few weeks the tip of the upper and lower beak dies and drops off and the beak becomes shorter with blunt tips.
Re-trimming with a hot blade is carried out to avoid or correct pecking problems due to beak regrowth. Some farm managers will re-trim routinely as part of their bird management while others will only re-trim to improve poor or incorrect trimming previously carried out. Some will also re-trim according to veterinarian advice.
There are bird welfare issues with the use of both methods of beak trimming. These include the removal of sensory receptors, reduction in pecking efficiency, loss of temperature and touch responses in the beak and the potential for persistent pain.
http://tinyurl.com/y8r4apx
This is the "poultry hub" site... Nothing "vegan" here - I assure you. Just the "Facts".
Oh... And that video - Are you so silly to post a video with so many warranted negative comments? All it does is assert my position my clearly: The egg and "poultry" industries are a sham! They only present what is "nice" to see... Don't you get that???
well obviously the chickens don't mind having their beaks fixed, sorta like plastic surgery on humans. They still eat, enjoy life in their cages and lay eggs so we can have bacon and eggs for breakfast. I love eggs and pancakes too. Tell the chickens thank you since you are an animal whisperer and know exactly what all animals think.
As patient as I am, I find that as the conversations continue I'm dragged ever lower in my standards of "reasonable discourse"... In other words - I'm having a hard time stooping to your cronic juvenile (and hostile) remarks.
If you want another one of your comments to remain "un-trashed" by me - Better make it be brilliant!
Well, for one thing my mother is 80 years old,never been to a dr. except for child birth and has and still does eat meat and a variety of other food. So if meat is such a rotten poison, where is your proof?
Hi Amanda - I'd be curious as to what quantity your mother eats meat? Furthermore, there are many people who smoke cigarettes and live well into their 90's - Doesn't mean everyone will have such good luck.
I'm not saying that eating small quantities of animal based foods will kill you. But it sure does kill others!
Eating meat, dairy and eggs is not necessary for human health either - We can thrive on a plant based diet - Therefore where is your justification for harming others when there is no need to do so?
Good day.
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