Jun 25, 2010

Recall:Animal Drugs in Animal Foods & in Animal Meat - Vegan IS Better (still & again)

The USDA just recalled approximately 61,000 pounds of beef products that may contain the animal drug Ivermectin.  This recall isn't to be confused with the 87,000 pounds of flesh, I mean "meat" that was recalled for exactly the same reasons about a month ago...

Ivermectin is used for the treatment and control of gastrointestinal roundworms, lungworms, grubs, and ectoparasites, horn flies, sucking and biting lice and sarcoptic mange mites on cattle. 



Goodness knows anyone eating muscle, tissue, organs, blood, tumors, veins, tendons, boils, scar tissue and cancers wouldn't want any ugly roundworms in their "food" too!
 
Had it with the dead foods YET?  Go Vegan!

10 comments:

Jo Tyler said...

Yes, you'd think roundworm would be the least of their concerns eating all those diseased products of misery and abuse.

I am just absolutely shocked at how complacent and naive most consumers are with regards to what is in their "food." So many believe in the fairy tale that animals raised for food are given super wonderful lives basking in the sun, eating natural diets and generally being left alone until that day comes when they are switftly and painless killed so that they can "give" us their meat for our BBQ pits.

And of course the USDA checks all the meat for purity and safety and all is well in our golden land.

Nonsense.

This recall is just one of the latest scares that has actually managed to "get out" to the public. Who knows how much meat, dairy, poultry and seafood is actually adulterated and unsafe to consume?

Makes me think of this mind-blowing video I just saw about the reporters at Fox News who were fired for reporting on the cancer causing agents found in milk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL1pKlnhvg0

Bea Elliott said...

Hi Jo - I was once one of those "complacent and naive" consumers! I never imagined what animals were fattened, fed and injected with! How dumb was I? I never even knew about the poop in the meat till I saw Fast Food Nation - 4 years after it was released! Guess I really swallowed (ick) the lies when I didn't know...

Fool me once shame on you --- Fool me twice... Well, safe to say: Never again!

Ah yes- and the other lies: animals going willingly to sacrifice their bodies for our dining pleasure! HA! Break out the rose-colored glasses for that one! ;)

Anonymous said...

A few things to consider here:

1. Most of the things you've listed can be cooked out. Unfortunately, drugs are not one of them so yes, they'd be recalled.

2. Vegetables and other items have been recalled for issues such as salmonella, e-coli, and other dangerous and deadly diseases. Some of those can be destroyed by cooking, others they cannot.

Let's also not forget that said fruits and veggies can be infested with worms and other bugs, rendering them useless for consumption.

3. Remember too - fruits and vegetables are also prone to dangerous chemicals, pesticides and the like - which is just like this drug recall. There is very little difference, except the claim that one diet is again supposedly superior.

Yes, it's sad when things are not checked properly, and efforts are INDEED going on in order to shut down those that do break the law.

However, it is also very misleading to say that fruits and vegetables are not susceptible to similar issues.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and BTW, Bea - I've eaten a diet that has included meat for years...

And I have NOT gotten sick in nearly a decade. I mean, any way, shape or form.

I did however become too thin on a vegan diet. DANGEROUSLY THIN - and I was following said "vegan diet" to a "T."

Therefore, for some of us, vegan is not best, and you are mistaken to think such a thing.

Anonymous said...

And... "Dead foods" is a misnomer sweetheart: vegetables are indeed dead as well.

They were living before you plucked them from the ground. While they had no conscious thought, they did grow from a seen into a plant with the fruits and then said fruits are plucked, hence they die.

Flowers also wither away if plucked from a plant, but will grow throughout a season. Some hibernate before they bloom again, some seed and the original plant dies after it seeds.

Circle of life.

Please - at least stop with the misnomers - "Dead foods" is inaccurate.

Aaron said...

Yeah, like produce has never been recalled for containing a lethal pesticide or some other stupid thing. This is just some cheap shot to insult eating meat, but by itself, it doesn't really mean anything.

Bea Elliott said...

Yes vegetables have been recalled for salmonella and e-coli. Just wondering though if you know where these pathogens and parasites come from? They are present in the gut... The intestines of animals. No vegetable or fruit carries this strain of "bug" without it being introduced by animals... And it is usually "livestock" animals:

The e coli outbreaks from vegetables are mostly a result of the rivers of poop running from factory farms! So in essence the meat industry is infecting and compromising MY food! The very large spinach recall was attributed to run-off from a nearby feedlot. The e-coli outbreak in Oklahoma a few years ago was likely a result of wells contaminated by chicken poop from the Tyson chicken factory farms in that area. The problems that cause recalls in plants is a direct result of fecal matter... You know, the bug that is in meat as a "normal" part of the "product"... I know, I know... You guys cook it out --- Whatever.

"fruits and vegetables are also prone to dangerous chemicals, pesticides and the like" - Good reason to grow your own if you can... Buy at local farmer's markets and/or always look for organic. Nothing is a sure bet or a win all the time - But the risks of "unhealthy" or "dangerous" plant foods is far less than those gambled on by a meat eater.

I am not a nutritionalist or dietician , but I can draw my conclusions on what I've experienced and witness in others who are now vegan. With very few exceptions, most have had positive things to say about their health and their decisions to eliminate animal products. Personally, I have more energy and feel better now than a decade ago...

But I do have to ask... What "vegan diet" did you follow? Which "one"? Because there's hundreds of different "variations"... There's nothing so "different" about eating "vegan" at all. The choices just reduce animal products... That's it. After that there are thousands of combinations and options. Basically, you're just substituting animal protein with plant protein... Same thing - just a different source!

There is no "one" vegan diet per say. There is no reduced, singular "magic recipe" of what to eat. --- Just eat healthy portions of a balanced diet with the proper amounts of carbs, calories, proteins, vitamins, etc. Just like you're doing on your "standard meat-based diet"... You are doing that- right??? I mean... since you are so concerned with your health and all...

"vegetables are indeed dead as well." Ah... But the "life" they had resembles nothing of what we know sentient life to be. The level of empathy one has in seeing a "dead carrot" is far removed from the emotion decent people have in seeing dead-"life" in an animal. And it IS okay to care... Really - it is.

Finally I'm oh so tired of discussing "conscious thought in plants"... I dismiss the concept because the comparisons between cutting grass and cutting a cats tail aren't even vaguely similar... And the only comparisons that are made are usually from those who wish to de-value genuine emotion that any reasonable person ought to feel... I'm just not going to entertain that nonsense (yet again).

And sure, there is a circle of life - And flowers wither. But killing innocent creatures perpetuates the circle of needless death. Anyone can opt for the most compassionate choices possible, to break that "chain". It's really as simple as that.

Bea Elliott said...

Yes vegetables have been recalled for salmonella and e-coli. Just wondering though if you know where these pathogens and parasites come from?They are present in the gut... The intestines of animals. No vegetable or fruit "carries" this strain of "bug" without it being introduced by animals. And it is usually "livestock" animals:

The e coli outbreaks from vegetables are usually a result of the rivers of poop running from factory farms! So in essence the meat industry is infecting and compromising MY food! The large spinach recall was attributed to run-off from a nearby feedlot. The ecoli outbreak in Oklahoma a few years ago was likely a result of wells contaminated by chicken poop from a Tyson chicken factory farms in that area. The problems that cause recalls in plants is a direct result of fecal matter...You know, the bug that is in meat as a "normal" part of the "product".I know, I know...You guys cook it out-Whatever.

"fruits and vegetables are also prone to dangerous chemicals, pesticides and the like" - Good reason to grow your own if you can. Buy at local farmer's markets and/or always look for organic.Nothing is a sure bet all the time. But the risks of "unhealthy" or "dangerous" plant foods is far less than those gambled on by a meat eater.

I am not a nutritionalist or dietician, but I can draw my conclusions on what I've experienced and witness in others who are now vegan. With very few exceptions, most have had positive things to say about their health and their decisions to eliminate animal products.Personally, I have more energy and feel better now than a decade ago...

But I do have to ask... What "vegan
diet" did you follow? Which "one"?
Because there's hundreds of different "variations"... There's nothing so "different" about eating "vegan" at all. The choices just substitute sources of nutrition. That's it. After that there are thousands of combinations and options. Basically, you're just substituting animal protein with plant protein. Same thing - just a different source!

There is no "one" vegan diet per say.There is no reduced, singular "diet" of what to eat. Just eat balanced portions containing the proper amounts of carbs, calories, proteins, vitamins, etc. Just like you're doing on your "standard meat-based diet". You are doing that- right??? I mean... since you are so concerned with your health and all...

"vegetables are indeed dead as well." Ah...But the "life" they had resembles nothing of what we know sentient life to be. The level of empathy one has in seeing a "dead carrot" is far removed from the emotion decent people have in seeing dead-"life" in an animal. And it IS okay to care... Really - it is.

Finally I'm oh so tired of discussing "conscious thought in plants"... I dismiss the concept because the comparisons between cutting grass and cutting a cats tail aren't even vaguely similar... And the only comparisons that are made are usually from those who wish to de-value genuine emotion that any reasonable person ought to feel... I'm just not going to entertain that nonsense (yet again).

And sure, there is a circle of life.And flowers wither. But killing innocent creatures perpetuates the circle of needless death. Anyone can opt for the most compassionate choices possible, to break that "chain". It's really as simple as that.

Bea Elliott said...

Yes vegetables have been recalled for salmonella and e-coli. Just wondering though if you know where these pathogens and parasites come from? They are present in the gut... The intestines of animals. No vegetable or fruit "carries" this strain of "bug" without it being introduced by animals... And it is usually "livestock" animals:

The e coli outbreaks from vegetables are usually a result of the rivers of poop running from factory farms! So in essence the meat industry is infecting and compromising MY food! The very large spinach recall was attributed to run-off from a nearby feedlot. The e-coli outbreak in Oklahoma a few years ago was likely a result of wells contaminated by chicken poop from the Tyson chicken factory farms in that area. The problems that cause recalls in plants is a direct result of fecal matter... You know, the bug that is in meat as a "normal" part of the "product"... I know, I know... You guys cook it out --- Whatever.

"fruits and vegetables are also prone to dangerous chemicals, pesticides and the like" - Good reason to grow your own if you can... Buy at local farmer's markets and/or always look for organic. Nothing is a sure bet or a win all the time - But the risks of "unhealthy" or "dangerous" plant foods is far less than those gambled on by a meat eater.

I am not a nutritionalist or dietician , but I can draw my conclusions on what I've experienced and witness in others who are now vegan. With very few exceptions, most have had positive things to say about their health and their decisions to eliminate animal products. Personally, I have more energy and feel better now than a decade ago...

But I do have to ask... What "vegan diet" did you follow? Which "one"? Because there's hundreds of different "variations"... There's nothing so "different" about eating "vegan" at all. The choices just reduce animal products... That's it. After that there are thousands of combinations and options. Basically, you're just substituting animal protein with plant protein... Same thing - just a different source!

There is no "one" vegan diet per say. There is no reduced, singular "magic recipe" of what to eat. --- Just eat healthy portions of a balanced diet with the proper amounts of carbs, calories, proteins, vitamins, etc. Just like you're doing on your "standard meat-based diet"... You are doing that- right??? I mean... since you are so concerned with your health and all...

"vegetables are indeed dead as well." Ah... But the "life" they had resembles nothing of what we know sentient life to be. The level of empathy one has in seeing a "dead carrot" is far removed from the emotion decent people have in seeing dead-"life" in an animal. And it IS okay to care... Really - it is.

Finally I'm oh so tired of discussing "conscious thought in plants"... I dismiss the concept because the comparisons between cutting grass and cutting a cats tail aren't even vaguely similar... And the only comparisons that are made are usually from those who wish to de-value genuine emotion that any reasonable person ought to feel... I'm just not going to entertain that nonsense (yet again).

And sure, there is a circle of life - And flowers wither. But killing innocent creatures perpetuates the circle of needless death. Anyone can opt for the most compassionate choices possible, to break that "chain". It's really as simple as that.

Bea Elliott said...

Yes vegetables have been recalled for salmonella and e-coli. Just wondering though if you know where these pathogens and parasites come from? They are present in the gut... The intestines of animals. No vegetable or fruit "carries" this strain of "bug" without it being introduced by animals... And it is usually "livestock" animals:

The e coli outbreaks from vegetables are usually a result of the rivers of poop running from factory farms! So in essence the meat industry is infecting and compromising MY food! The very large spinach recall was attributed to run-off from a nearby feedlot. The e-coli outbreak in Oklahoma a few years ago was likely a result of wells contaminated by chicken poop from the Tyson chicken factory farms in that area. The problems that cause recalls in plants is a direct result of fecal matter... You know, the bug that is in meat as a "normal" part of the "product"... I know, I know... You guys cook it out --- Whatever.

"fruits and vegetables are also prone to dangerous chemicals, pesticides and the like" - Good reason to grow your own if you can... Buy at local farmer's markets and/or always look for organic. Nothing is a sure bet or a win all the time - But the risks of "unhealthy" or "dangerous" plant foods is far less than those gambled on by a meat eater.

I am not a nutritionalist or dietician , but I can draw my conclusions on what I've experienced and witness in others who are now vegan. With very few exceptions, most have had positive things to say about their health and their decisions to eliminate animal products. Personally, I have more energy and feel better now than a decade ago...

But I do have to ask... What "vegan diet" did you follow? Which "one"? Because there's hundreds of different "variations"... There's nothing so "different" about eating "vegan" at all. The choices just reduce animal products... That's it. After that there are thousands of combinations and options. Basically, you're just substituting animal protein with plant protein... Same thing - just a different source!

There is no "one" vegan diet per say. There is no reduced, singular "magic recipe" of what to eat. --- Just eat healthy portions of a balanced diet with the proper amounts of carbs, calories, proteins, vitamins, etc. Just like you're doing on your "standard meat-based diet"... You are doing that- right??? I mean... since you are so concerned with your health and all...

"vegetables are indeed dead as well." Ah... But the "life" they had resembles nothing of what we know sentient life to be. The level of empathy one has in seeing a "dead carrot" is far removed from the emotion decent people have in seeing dead-"life" in an animal. And it IS okay to care... Really - it is.

Finally I'm oh so tired of discussing "conscious thought in plants"... I dismiss the concept because the comparisons between cutting grass and cutting a cats tail aren't even vaguely similar... And the only comparisons that are made are usually from those who wish to de-value genuine emotion that any reasonable person ought to feel... I'm just not going to entertain that nonsense (yet again).

And sure, there is a circle of life - And flowers wither. But killing innocent creatures perpetuates the circle of needless death. Anyone can opt for the most compassionate choices possible, to break that "chain". It's really as simple as that.